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Found some info on "old" beer… http://beer.tcm.hut.fi/Olutturisti/Belgium/BeerHunting/Part6.html

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How about making a home brew that could last 30 year? Any ideas?

You could do a solera ale (see Jeff Renner’s article in the Jan/Feb ‘02 issue of Zymurgy).

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That’s a toughie,,,you mean you want something that will last that long? Thomas Hardy ale (a barleywine) is a contender, but they don’t make it anymore and the only bottles I’ve seen for sale are pretty pricey..It would have to be a barleywine or imperial stout,,,or a mead would be a good choice,,, john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i’m turning 21 on the 31st, and i’d like to pick up a beer that i can drink with my son when he turns 21.  so that’s at least 25 years from now, in all likelihood. right now, i’m in the DC area, and will be driving down to atlanta around the 30th.  acquiring the beer isn’t a problem, but finding the right one to celebrate a date so far in the future is a bit beyond my beer knowledge. any recommendations, and if possible locations to pick it up? thanks in advance —      j.beckham      | Everyone was born right handed,

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Maple syrup and soy sauce (Sam Adams 3 Bock)…the only problem with putting away a bottle of SATB is that someday you’ll have to drink it. Or sell it on eBay.

I have a bottle of this stuff I have no clue what to do with it. I was thinking maybe it could be used as "extract"? Just add 1 part 3 Bock and 4 parts carbonated water? Might be an okay Pale Ale? Or 10 parts water to make Bud-Water…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maple syrup and soy sauce (Sam Adams 3 Bock)…the only problem with putting away a bottle of SATB is that someday you’ll have to drink it. Or sell it on eBay. I have a bottle of this stuff I have no clue what to do with it. I was thinking maybe it could be used as "extract"? Just add 1 part 3 Bock and 4 parts carbonated water? Might be an okay Pale Ale? Or 10 parts water to make Bud-Water…

Or some garlic,  green onions, Tabasco sauce, ginger, sesame seed oil, a bit of honey (to make it stick) and you got yourself a nice marinade/glaze….. :^p

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(subject Sam Adams 3 Bock) Or some garlic,  green onions, Tabasco sauce, ginger, sesame seed oil, a bit of honey (to make it stick) and you got yourself a nice marinade/glaze….. :^p

Now that sounds good!

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Yeah, I second the glaze idea. Not worth drinking the stuff, I had a taste at the local  beer fest. last may, nothing to write home about. I finished it because it was one of the most expensive offerings, but I didn’t go back for seconds. John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (subject Sam Adams 3 Bock) Or some garlic,  green onions, Tabasco sauce, ginger, sesame seed oil, a bit of honey (to make it stick) and you got yourself a nice marinade/glaze….. :^p Now that sounds good!

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How about making a home brew that could last 30 year? Any ideas? How much hops could you use knowing it has 30 years to age?

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I don’t think any homebrew would be good in 30 years..really…i mean just the gradual oxidation would be terrible..even if you kept it cool etc… the hop flavour /aroma would probably be totally gone, if there was any.. 5 years, sure. 10 years, probably . Maybe a strong, still, mead would be a better candidate for a 30 year aging? John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How about making a home brew that could last 30 year? Any ideas? How much hops could you use knowing it has 30 years to age?

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I don’t think any homebrew would be good in 30 years..really…i mean just the gradual oxidation would be terrible..even if you kept it cool etc…

How would oxygen get into a glass bottle? the hop flavour /aroma would probably be totally gone, if there was any..

Where would it go? Is not hops flavor and aroma an oil? Would this oil break down over time? 5 years, sure. 10 years, probably . Maybe a strong, still, mead would be a better candidate for a 30 year aging? John

Have to wonder if there are any 30+ year old beers out there? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How about making a home brew that could last 30 year? Any ideas? How much hops could you use knowing it has 30 years to age?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i’m turning 21 on the 31st, and i’d like to pick up a beer that i can drink with my son when he turns 21.  so that’s at least 25 years from now, in all likelihood. right now, i’m in the DC area, and will be driving down to atlanta around the 30th.  acquiring the beer isn’t a problem, but finding the right one to celebrate a date so far in the future is a bit beyond my beer knowledge. any recommendations, and if possible locations to pick it up? thanks in advance —      j.beckham      | Everyone was born right handed,

I would recommend a six pack of Anchor’s Old Foghorn Barleywine.

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You’re probably better off considering a top-shelf bourbon or scotch than beer. I would suggest something like a Thomas Hardy, but not sure how well it fares after 10 years (I’ve got a few bottles from the early/mid 90’s in my basement). Rumor has it that some strong Belgian styles can be put down for a very long time… Garry

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From what I’ve read,  Westvleteren Abt 12