Brewing Master

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There are many, many folks– and actually, very few of them are homeless, although most are immigrants –who will, if allowed, make quite a decent living picking through landfills.

Be careful with those ignorant stereotypes, dude…

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Maybe so, but my view is that as long as you are not holding anyone to blame for the stuff that may be there (ie bad stuff), you should have the right to take what you want. If i toss a bunch of old stuff (ie old appliances,

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Maybe so, but my view is that as long as you are not holding anyone to blame for the stuff that may be there (ie bad stuff), you should have the right to take what you want. If i toss a bunch of old stuff (ie old appliances, brewing stuff, books, whatever) out in front of my house for the trash to take away, and someone comes and takes them first, more power to them.. Just piling more and more stuff into landfills is a very shortsited solution. Of course, not generating the trash in the first place is the best solution, but re-using and recycling is second best. john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -about all the nasty stuff that goes into the typical household’s trash bin…. and I know for a fact that in some municipalities here in the USA, wastewater treatment plants are allowed to dump "inorganic" screenings from the inflow into the landfill with no safeguards of a sanitary nature. There are some very good reasons for the laws ‘guarding the trash’. On the other hand, I’ve found some very useful items at the landfill while dumping my own stuff there.  I have a 26" Panasonic TV right here.  The only thing wrong with it is a crack in the housing under the picture tube.  It works like a champ, but someone simply tossed it away.  "Honey, look what followed me home!  Can we keep it???"  {:-) — –DAsh obvious with attbi)

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"Better Off Dead", but, First, you go that way real fast…if something gets in your way – turn… Cheers! Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – we need that we even throw away perfectly good white boys…. ahem,…. okay, that was an obscure reference to a really funny movie, but I think my point is genuine. May I now return you to your favorite beverage and the production of same– BEER!

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"Better Off Dead", but, First, you go that way real fast…if something gets in your way – turn…

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Hah!  I sense a euphemism there.  I see Cluster knocked now and then, but it’s always tasted fine to me.  This will be the first time I’ve used nothing but, and I suppose if it’s awful it’ll still be a learning experience.  I’m only shooting for about 30 IBU, though, so it shouldn’t be overwhelming. True to my word, I did bottle that rye ale today.  It had 2 weeks in the secondary, and was only somewhat green tasting now.  It was fairly pleasant.  Lots of Cluster there, too, but also some Chinook. John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A few big days coming up!  Bottling rye ale tomorrow.  Day after that I’m starting an all-Cluster APA, and within another couple of days I’ll start a porter.  And I need to rack a braggot I’ve got bulk aging too. John Yow, all Cluster…that’s gonna be intewresting.

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Well, everybody’s got their own, tastes.  I’ve used Cluster a few times for various things.  Sometimes I liked them, sometimes I didn’t, sometimes they were "interesting"!  I think an all Cluster beer ought to fall into the "interesting" category. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hah!  I sense a euphemism there.  I see Cluster knocked now and then, but it’s always tasted fine to me.  This will be the first time I’ve used nothing but, and I suppose if it’s awful it’ll still be a learning experience.  I’m only shooting for about 30 IBU, though, so it shouldn’t be overwhelming. True to my word, I did bottle that rye ale today.  It had 2 weeks in the secondary, and was only somewhat green tasting now.  It was fairly pleasant.  Lots of Cluster there, too, but also some Chinook. John

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A few big days coming up!  Bottling rye ale tomorrow.  Day after that I’m starting an all-Cluster APA, and within another couple of days I’ll start a porter.  And I need to rack a braggot I’ve got bulk aging too. John

Yow, all Cluster…that’s gonna be intewresting.

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A few big days coming up!  Bottling rye ale tomorrow.  Day after that I’m starting an all-Cluster APA, and within another couple of days I’ll start a porter.  And I need to rack a braggot I’ve got bulk aging too. John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ANyone brew anything today? John

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At the risk of sounding dense, why weren’t they allowed to sell things?  I thought that’s how junk yards work – collect other people’s crap (saving the rest of us the trouble of looking) and then sell it to the people that want it. Here in Canberra, they started a job-creation project called "Revolve", where long-term unemployed people were paid to collect saleable stuff off the tip-face, organise it and sell it.  It’s been so successful, it now employs dozens of people and is a coupla-million dollar operation. Cheers Richard F.    This was the type of junk yard that recycles metals. They deal only with that. Apparently the guy didn’t want to deal with any other issues that day. I had an opportunity to just load and go but I had just made it known I was interested in that item and didn’t want to have them "release the hounds".                                         Steve

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You are pretty perceptive – I don’t live in the U.S. Heck, i think we should all agree to kill this thread here and now, i’ve seen too many great NG’s go to hell because a thread like this got out of control.. ANyone brew anything today? John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    You must not live in the US…    Or else you’d know that there’s *always* someone ELSE to blame!!!    Guy suing cigarette manufacturer:  "Huh??!  Smoke isn’t good for me to inhale??  I thought my body’s natural cough reaction meant that the vitamins in the smoke were kicking in!" —–= Posted via Newsfeed.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeed.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== 100,000 Groups! – 19 Servers! – Unlimited Download! =—–

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: ANyone brew anything today? Not today, but I smacked an old Wyeast 1084 the other day. Gonna take some time off work next week and make an oatmeal stout. All this talk about stout around here has been making me thirsty. Oh, and I bottled roughly 50 litres of beer last night. Had some delightful help, too: Here’s something for you single guys to try. This year for my workplace’s United Way drive I offered a hands on all grain brewing lesson + 23 litres of beer as a silent auction item. The winner got to choose the beer style and I supplied all ingredients, bottles, etc. Anyway, much to my amazement a couple of cute girls from Quebec doing a work term here outbid everyone – they wanted a Blanch de Chambly clone, so we more or less followed the recipe from Clonebrews. I kept telling my wife I was doing this for a good cause But seriously, it was great fun for everyone. I’m going to offer this every year… — Bill

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There are many, many folks– and actually, very few of them are homeless, although most are immigrants –who will, if allowed, make quite a decent living picking through landfills. Be careful with those ignorant stereotypes, dude…

It’s not an ignorant stereotype, friend.  I used to work as a trash truck driver and have made many, many trips to several different landfills.  ALL the pickers I have seen were obviously not from ’round hyar’bouts, if you catch my drift.  And, believe me, I saw a LOT of pickers.  Doesn’t mean that I’m denigrating anyone, just making a statement derived from personally observed data points.  Here in America, we truly DO have a land of plenty…. plenty of ignorant folks who throw plenty of perfectly reuseable items in the trash because they are too lazy to take a load to the Goodwill or any of several dozen other organizations which could truly benefit from castoffs.  We as a society have gotten so used to having way more stuff than we need that we even throw away perfectly good white boys…. ahem,…. okay, that was an obscure reference to a really funny movie, but I think my point is genuine. May I now return you to your favorite beverage and the production of same– BEER! — –DAsh obvious with attbi)

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What a retarded law!! WHat’s the point? If you look around and take some stuff home, that’s a few less things filling a landfill! Sheesh! So there they are, guarding the ‘trash’…retarded I say!

It’s not as retarded as you may think.  There are many, many folks– and actually, very few of them are homeless, although most are immigrants –who will, if allowed, make quite a decent living picking through landfills. Now, before you bring up the argument again that this is a good thing, think about all the nasty stuff that goes into the typical household’s trash bin…. and I know for a fact that in some municipalities here in the USA, wastewater treatment plants are allowed to dump "inorganic" screenings from the inflow into the landfill with no safeguards of a sanitary nature.  There are some very good reasons for the laws ‘guarding the trash’. On the other hand, I’ve found some very useful items at the landfill while dumping my own stuff there.  I have a 26" Panasonic TV right here.  The only thing wrong with it is a crack in the housing under the picture tube.  It works like a champ, but someone simply tossed it away.  "Honey, look what followed me home!  Can we keep it???"  {:-) — –DAsh obvious with attbi)

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What a retarded law!! WHat’s the point? If you look around and take some stuff home, that’s a few less things filling a landfill! Sheesh! So there they are, guarding the ‘trash’…retarded I say! john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think he meant a trash dump. Around here you can drive in and dump but can’t pickup anything… too bad to because I’ve seen many valuable items at the dump. Junk Yards owners on the other hand will sell you there mother for a price… no offence intended to reputable owners but my ex-brother-in-law owns a junk yard…don’t ask.. — Bill Bufkin Homebrewing site  http://home.swbell.net/bufkin What a bummer, I went to the junk yard yesterday and as I was exiting my vehical I spyed this nice shiny 40-50 lb aluminum cylinder with that familiar Co2 type valve on top. I thought man "come to papa". Being the honest sort I inquiered within. Of course they proceeded to give me the "No, we don’t sell things here and insurance prohibits us from giving it to you" Ugh! I was bummed! It looked fine. Not a dent or scatch. But I had to let it go. At the risk of sounding dense, why weren’t they allowed to sell things? I thought that’s how junk yards work – collect other people’s crap (saving the rest of us the trouble of looking) and then sell it to the people that want it. Here in Canberra, they started a job-creation project called "Revolve", where long-term unemployed people were paid to collect saleable stuff off the tip-face, organise it and sell it.  It’s been so successful, it now employs dozens of people and is a coupla-million dollar operation. Cheers Richard F.

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I think he meant a trash dump. Around here you can drive in and dump but can’t pickup anything… too bad to because I’ve seen many valuable items at the dump. Junk Yards owners on the other hand will sell you there mother for a price… no offence intended to reputable owners but my ex-brother-in-law owns a junk yard…don’t ask.. — Bill Bufkin Homebrewing site  http://home.swbell.net/bufkin

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What a bummer, I went to the junk yard yesterday and as I was exiting my vehical I spyed this nice shiny 40-50 lb aluminum cylinder with that familiar Co2 type valve on top. I thought man "come to papa". Being the honest sort I inquiered within. Of course they proceeded to give me the "No, we don’t sell things here and insurance prohibits us from giving it to you" Ugh! I was bummed! It looked fine. Not a dent or scatch. But I had to let it go. At the risk of sounding dense, why weren’t they allowed to sell things?  I thought that’s how junk yards work – collect other people’s crap (saving the rest of us the trouble of looking) and then sell it to the people that want it. Here in Canberra, they started a job-creation project called "Revolve", where long-term unemployed people were paid to collect saleable stuff off the tip-face, organise it and sell it.  It’s been so successful, it now employs dozens of people and is a coupla-million dollar operation. Cheers Richard F.

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What a bummer, I went to the junk yard yesterday and as I was exiting my vehical I spyed this nice shiny 40-50 lb aluminum cylinder with that familiar Co2 type valve on top. I thought man "come to papa". Being the honest sort I inquiered within. Of course they proceeded to give me the "No, we don’t sell things here and insurance prohibits us from giving it to you" Ugh! I was bummed! It looked fine. Not a dent or scatch. But I had to let it go.

At the risk of sounding dense, why weren’t they allowed to sell things?  I thought that’s how junk yards work – collect other people’s crap (saving the rest of us the trouble of looking) and then sell it to the people that want it. Here in Canberra, they started a job-creation project called "Revolve", where long-term unemployed people were paid to collect saleable stuff off the tip-face, organise it and sell it.  It’s been so successful, it now employs dozens of people and is a coupla-million dollar operation. Cheers Richard F.

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Talk to the owner alone, bring cash.  I’ve had the same thing happen to me. Sometimes the owner will look at the money, then look the other way.  It’s money in his pocket that he doesn’t have to pay taxes on…

Many, many times, cash talks and …. I recently went to a brew pub and was told the sampler was only 5 beers. They had six on tap.  I told them to give me all six beers on the sampler. The waiter explained that it only came with 5.  I replied that since they have six beers, I wanted all six and that when he brings the standard 5 to add a single with it.  He understood what I meant which was "If you desire any tip, my sampler will contain 6 beers"…;) Cheers, Mike

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Talk to the owner alone, bring cash.  I’ve had the same thing happen to me. Sometimes the owner will look at the money, then look the other way.  It’s money in his pocket that he doesn’t have to pay taxes on… Good luck Buck

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   What a bummer, I went to the junk yard yesterday and as I was exiting my vehical I spyed this nice shiny 40-50 lb aluminum cylinder with that familiar Co2 type valve on top. I thought man "come to papa". Being the honest sort I inquiered within. Of course they proceeded to give me the "No, we don’t sell things here and insurance prohibits us from giving it to you" Ugh! I was bummed! It looked fine. Not a dent or scatch. But I had to let it go.                                                                   Steve

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  What a bummer, I went to the junk yard yesterday and as I was exiting my vehical I spyed this nice shiny 40-50 lb aluminum cylinder with that familiar Co2 type valve on top. I thought man "come to papa". Being the honest sort I inquiered within. Of course they proceeded to give me the "No, we don’t sell things here and insurance prohibits us from giving it to you" Ugh! I was bummed! It looked fine. Not a dent or scatch. But I had to let it go.

They have a fence?  You ever play toss-across? Just kidding…;) Cheers, Mike

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  What a bummer, I went to the junk yard yesterday and as I was exiting my vehical I spyed this nice shiny 40-50 lb aluminum cylinder with that familiar Co2 type valve on top. I thought man "come to papa". Being the honest sort I inquiered within. Of course they proceeded to give me the "No, we don’t sell things here and insurance prohibits us from giving it to you" Ugh! I was bummed! It looked fine. Not a dent or scatch. But I had to let it go.                                                                   Steve

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