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which begs the question, I guess, that is on my mind, too as winter turns to spring ……. just what is a good something to carry along on long rides to prevent bonking?  I’m glad somebody brought it up … I am anxious for advice.

If bonking is what I think it is, I find that just keeping my tummy full and my blood sugar fairly steady does the trick.  So, celery sticks, hard-boiled eggs, diet drinks, maybe some cottage cheese with berries?   Priscilla

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I thought bonking was sex.

I thought that was boinking. Priscilla

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I thought bonking was sex. I thought that was boinking. Priscilla

Boinking…Bonking… "OI" !  It’s enough to confuse anyone. Monica — Started 01/20/04 362/330.6/250 "First do no harm."  - Hippocrates — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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:: which begs the question, I guess, that is on my mind, too as winter :: turns to spring ……. just what is a good something to carry along :: on long rides to prevent bonking?  I’m glad somebody brought it up :: … I am anxious for advice. Well, the typical advice is something carby with glucose…so on a long ride you’re going to need some food sources and perhaps some glucose sources….You’re going to need some water anyway, so you could use a sport drink.  And if you can estimate your calorie burn for the ride, you can even have some carbs. However, don’t assume bonking is necessarily going to happen.  Usually, it will happen because of going anaerobic for too long during a ride.  That’s not a good idea on a long bicycle ride in any case, but even moreso if you’re low carbing.  If you avoid going anaerobic, the chances are high that you can burn fat for fuel….so unsalted nuts might be a good food choice, since they are easy to carry on a bike.  Even a protein bar will work, though, but I’d avoid anything with sugar alcohols because of potential problems with gas and the runs. I keep some Smarties candy in my bag when I ride…just in case, because around here there are lots of hills. Smarties are just glucose… The other thing is that what do we mean by long…are we talking 20, 40, 50, or 100 miles?  I’ve done 30 miles with nearly nothing but Fruit 20 in my water bottles and others have done more.  Of course, if you’re riding 100 miles, you can likely eat really carby stuff and not worry too much as you’re very likely burn off those calories during the ride. Hopefully, Bob and Pat will chime in…they have way, way more experience than me on long rides…. I’m hoping to start my riding next week! :: :: :: :: — :: John Vertigan :: Atkins since 1/2/04 :: 262/233/160    — One more ’til 30! :: ::

::::: Can Atkins Bars be used to prevent bonking on long rides? ::::: ::::: Thanks in advance… ::: ::: No (IMO)…plus, you may get bad gas or the runs….

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: which begs the question, I guess, that is on my mind, too as winter :: turns to spring ……. just what is a good something to carry along :: on long rides to prevent bonking?  I’m glad somebody brought it up :: … I am anxious for advice. Well, the typical advice is something carby with glucose…so on a long ride you’re going to need some food sources and perhaps some glucose sources….You’re going to need some water anyway, so you could use a sport drink.  And if you can estimate your calorie burn for the ride, you can even have some carbs. However, don’t assume bonking is necessarily going to happen.  Usually, it will happen because of going anaerobic for too long during a ride.   That’s not a good idea on a long bicycle ride in any case, but even moreso if you’re low carbing.  If you avoid going anaerobic, the chances are high that you can burn fat for fuel….so unsalted nuts might be a good food choice, since they are easy to carry on a bike.  Even a protein bar will work, though, but I’d avoid anything with sugar alcohols because of potential problems with gas and the runs. I keep some Smarties candy in my bag when I ride…just in case, because around here there are lots of hills. Smarties are just glucose… The other thing is that what do we mean by long…are we talking 20, 40, 50, or 100 miles?  I’ve done 30 miles with nearly nothing but Fruit 20 in my water bottles and others have done more.  Of course, if you’re riding 100 miles, you can likely eat really carby stuff and not worry too much as you’re very likely burn off those calories during the ride. Hopefully, Bob and Pat will chime in…they have way, way more experience than me on long rides…. I’m hoping to start my riding next week!

Last spring/summer, I started out by low carbing during the week, then bring some carbs (dextrose or maltodextrin, bought at a beer brewing place) for the ride and eating carbs after ride.  If the ride was longer than 1.5 hours, I had carbs during the ride; for rides in the 4+ hour mark, I started bringing a bar, as my stomach needed something solid.  I began at about 30g carbs/hour with near 40g in my drink afterwards, for the long rides.  However, as time went on, I lowered the amount to around 10g/hour, 10-20g beforehand, and 20g after for long rides and also a Luna bar (fewest carbs) during the 4+ hour rides. 10g of carbs per hour is only 40 calories, so there’s no way I’m getting my calories by carbs, but I think the small amount of carbs lifts my spirits (though I haven’t yet tried no carbs). You might find that the amount of carbs you "need" will decrease over time (which could be your body’s acclimation to burning fat or you never needed a large amount of carbs in the first place or both). —

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OH!  I thought you meant motion sickness! <never mind Priscilla – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: which begs the question, I guess, that is on my mind, too as winter :: turns to spring ……. just what is a good something to carry along :: on long rides to prevent bonking?  I’m glad somebody brought it up :: … I am anxious for advice. Well, the typical advice is something carby with glucose…so on a long ride you’re going to need some food sources and perhaps some glucose sources….You’re going to need some water anyway, so you could use a sport drink.  And if you can estimate your calorie burn for the ride, you can even have some carbs. However, don’t assume bonking is necessarily going to happen.  Usually, it will happen because of going anaerobic for too long during a ride.   That’s not a good idea on a long bicycle ride in any case, but even moreso if you’re low carbing.  If you avoid going anaerobic, the chances are high that you can burn fat for fuel….so unsalted nuts might be a good food choice, since they are easy to carry on a bike.  Even a protein bar will work, though, but I’d avoid anything with sugar alcohols because of potential problems with gas and the runs. I keep some Smarties candy in my bag when I ride…just in case, because around here there are lots of hills. Smarties are just glucose… The other thing is that what do we mean by long…are we talking 20, 40, 50, or 100 miles?  I’ve done 30 miles with nearly nothing but Fruit 20 in my water bottles and others have done more.  Of course, if you’re riding 100 miles, you can likely eat really carby stuff and not worry too much as you’re very likely burn off those calories during the ride. Hopefully, Bob and Pat will chime in…they have way, way more experience than me on long rides…. I’m hoping to start my riding next week! Last spring/summer, I started out by low carbing during the week, then bring some carbs (dextrose or maltodextrin, bought at a beer brewing place) for the ride and eating carbs after ride.  If the ride was longer than 1.5 hours, I had carbs during the ride; for rides in the 4+ hour mark, I started bringing a bar, as my stomach needed something solid.  I began at about 30g carbs/hour with near 40g in my drink afterwards, for the long rides.  However, as time went on, I lowered the amount to around 10g/hour, 10-20g beforehand, and 20g after for long rides and also a Luna bar (fewest carbs) during the 4+ hour rides. 10g of carbs per hour is only 40 calories, so there’s no way I’m getting my calories by carbs, but I think the small amount of carbs lifts my spirits (though I haven’t yet tried no carbs). You might find that the amount of carbs you "need" will decrease over time (which could be your body’s acclimation to burning fat or you never needed a large amount of carbs in the first place or both).

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:: Can Atkins Bars be used to prevent bonking on long rides? :: :: Thanks in advance… No (IMO)…plus, you may get bad gas or the runs….

Which may, in turn, prevent BOINKING — Saffire 205/166/125  -  5′2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo:  http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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Thank for all the answers…. I think I’ll bring a few Dates just incase I feel the need for something. …./Mark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: which begs the question, I guess, that is on my mind, too as winter :: turns to spring ……. just what is a good something to carry along :: on long rides to prevent bonking?  I’m glad somebody brought it up :: … I am anxious for advice. Well, the typical advice is something carby with glucose…so on a long ride you’re going to need some food sources and perhaps some glucose sources….You’re going to need some water anyway, so you could use a sport drink.  And if you can estimate your calorie burn for the ride, you can even have some carbs. However, don’t assume bonking is necessarily going to happen.  Usually, it will happen because of going anaerobic for too long during a ride.  That’s not a good idea on a long bicycle ride in any case, but even moreso if you’re low carbing.  If you avoid going anaerobic, the chances are high that you can burn fat for fuel….so unsalted nuts might be a good food choice, since they are easy to carry on a bike.  Even a protein bar will work, though, but I’d avoid anything with sugar alcohols because of potential problems with gas and the runs. I keep some Smarties candy in my bag when I ride…just in case, because around here there are lots of hills. Smarties are just glucose… The other thing is that what do we mean by long…are we talking 20, 40, 50, or 100 miles?  I’ve done 30 miles with nearly nothing but Fruit 20 in my water bottles and others have done more.  Of course, if you’re riding 100 miles, you can likely eat really carby stuff and not worry too much as you’re very likely burn off those calories during the ride. Hopefully, Bob and Pat will chime in…they have way, way more experience than me on long rides…. I’m hoping to start my riding next week! :: :: :: :: — :: John Vertigan :: Atkins since 1/2/04 :: 262/233/160    — One more ’til 30! :: :: ::::: Can Atkins Bars be used to prevent bonking on long rides? ::::: ::::: Thanks in advance… ::: ::: No (IMO)…plus, you may get bad gas or the runs….

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Please!  What is bonking?

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Please!  What is bonking?

The English (UK) slang term for screwing/rooting/sh**ging/effing (sorry eff

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Please!  What is bonking?

http://www.cptips.com/nutrtn.htm See under heading "HOW DOES WHAT YOU EAT POWER THE MUSCLE CELLS?" Tom

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        Can Atkins Bars be used to prevent bonking on long rides? Thanks in advance…

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:: Can Atkins Bars be used to prevent bonking on long rides? :: :: Thanks in advance… No (IMO)…plus, you may get bad gas or the runs….

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which begs the question, I guess, that is on my mind, too as winter turns to spring ……. just what is a good something to carry along on long rides to prevent bonking?  I’m glad somebody brought it up … I am anxious for advice. — John Vertigan Atkins since 1/2/04 262/233/160    — One more ’til 30!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: Can Atkins Bars be used to prevent bonking on long rides? :: :: Thanks in advance… No (IMO)…plus, you may get bad gas or the runs….

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I thought bonking was sex.

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I think that boinking. — Cheri Type 2, no meds for now. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I thought bonking was sex.

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I thought bonking was sex.

So then, if these bars cause gastro-intestinal distress, then such distress would surely prevent one from "bonking." Therefore, it would lead me to believe that yes, these bars do prevent bonking.  Hmmm, a new form a birth control perhaps?  (Yeah, yeah, I know this is bad but I couldn’t resist — JJ.

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